Quality rebuttal versus trading gurus such as James Community Links Members List. Sep 25, , 9: IMO the poster makes some very valid points and articulates them perfectly..

FWIW I started to get v. Even this past week I've chuckled and raised an eyebrow and blood pressure on occasion at some of the tactics the long term usual suspect con men are using on, for example, the trading journals or forex discussion forums part of T2W.. Anyhow, this is worth a read IMHO Right I'm gonna watch Kick Ass in HD followed by The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo This post is going to appear as fanning the flames, but it's not done with any ill motive behind it.

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It's purely my reaction to James' posts, which raise more red flags than I care to count. Again, many parts of this post are going to come off sounding rather abrasive, and I apologize in advance for that, but my BS meter is frankly off the charts..

James, I address the following to you: Originally Posted by james16 REMEMBER IVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS. Over 30 years or 25? Keeping in mind that retail FX has existed for little more than a decade, what is your prior experience? If you're so boastful about the number of years you've been "doing this", it would add a bit of credibility if you said what it is exactly you were previously "doing" sorry, I'm just naturally skeptical, as well as curious Quote: The James16 Group is not a business.

I PAY OUT 5 FIGURES A MONTH TO TEACHERS WITHIN THE GROUP THAT KNOW MY MATERIAL. You do realize the second sentence is a direct contradiction of the first sentence? I don't know of any "hobbies" that are that profitable.. James, let's not beat around the bush, you are running a commercial business. There's absolutely no shame in admitting it, you should be proud of what of you've accomplished, but at least man up and admit it.

As I previously stated, you are a commercial vendor. A commercial service is what you are selling. Your attempt to cast yourself as a white knight doing this out of the goodness of your heart is, I'm sorry, ridiculous. I WOULD PAY 5 FIGURES TO GET OUT IF IT WAS OFFERED.

Pay 5 figures to misconstrue the nature of your business, while at the same time, gain wider exposure on FF? I'm sure you would pay it in a heartbeat.. I enjoy the free thread a million times more than the paid group Really? A million times more? But yes, free advertising is incredible, isn't it? MOST OF THE MONEY THE GROUP MAKES NEVER SEES MY POCKETS. You must mean theoretically speaking, otherwise the IRS may be at odds with your revenue pass-thru arrangement.. Again, it comes off as if you're trying very hard to convince both your teachers and your clients that you're not profiting handsomely from your site.

I seriously question that. My reputation is important to me not because of the group but because i grew up in a time when a reputation actually mattered to people. Your reputation is important to you because you've turned it into a million dollar business.

Congratulations, that's quite an accomplishment! My wife is not happy at this point. Considering the money your enterprise is making, she should be very happy. But then again, your family is not relevant to this discussion. We don't need to hear about your wife, or the tears running down your face while holding your child upon reading the mean internet forum post someone wrote about you.

I'm sorry, but seriously, do you see what I'm saying about "overbearing"? NOW I ASK YOU. Why would a successful person continue to put himself thru this and possibly his families safety IF THE GROUPS INCOME DOESNT MATTER.

I LOVE FOREX FACTORY, I LOVE MY FREE THREAD I hate to say who often uttered roughly these exact same words I think most can guess. But yes, we know why you love FF and the free thread, a million dollar baby is something to love indeed. IF I EVER START A LIVE TRADING ROOM ITS LIKELY Sure why not, might as well keep on milking it..

James, I don't mean to come off sounding so critical, perhaps you do mean best. But the sympathy-inducing sob stories and white knight humble helper campaign just reek of shady, false-persona-building sales tactics. It's obvious you run a highly profitable commercial mentoring service.

It's not something to shy away from. As I said before, it's quite an accomplishment and something you should be proud of. I imagine you'd be running a hedge fund if the edge were that evident. The following members like this post: Sep 25, , Sep 26, , Also, I've actually sat and watched a 40min J16 video in it's entirety and although I'm still a p1ss poor trader and student I didn't find it even a little bit convincing.

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Personally I think a lot of sh1te spouted by him and well every forum I've visited regarding trading is a load of b0llox and I'm not even sure it is actual technical analysis. Some people say they make money but as this is the internet we will never really know will we? Last edited by scose-no-doubt; Sep 26, at 1: Sep 26, , 1: James does not say anything under daily is noise, he even teaches 5 min trading, but advises to start on the higher tf.

James teaches for free, which is all one needs to succeed if they study carefully on his free thread. James also has a paid site, which is very cool for many different reasons, of course you think its just a scam in there, so whatever. There is plenty of successful traders because of him. There are the facts, take em or leave em. Does nobody else feel it's very strange how quickly people respond to negative posts about SB firms, mentors etc? You'd think it was a full time job.

Sep 26, , 2: Originally Posted by scose-no-doubt. One more note for any new people that are reading this, James doesn't do managed accounts, so don't worry, the most you will lose is time at his free thread.

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Sep 26, , 3: I've never seen the claim that anything below daily was noise - do you have a link? There are some valid concerns with lower TFs, such as they encourage over-trading and require greater speed and discipline which for most probably only come with experience. That said, I personally don't like daily and above, although it's something I'm going to get around to learning at some point. Most of my trades are based off H1 and M Thread Tools Show Printable Version.

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Quality rebutall versus trading gurus such as James 16 Simple facts. Quality rebutall versus trading gurus such as James 16 Does nobody else feel it's very strange how quickly people respond to negative posts about SB firms, mentors etc? Quality rebutall versus trading gurus such as James 16 Quote: Originally Posted by scose-no-doubt Does nobody else feel it's very strange how quickly people respond to negative posts about SB firms, mentors etc?

Quality rebutall versus trading gurus such as James 16 One more note for any new people that are reading this, James doesn't do managed accounts, so don't worry, the most you will lose is time at his free thread. Quality rebutall versus trading gurus such as James 16 I've never seen the claim that anything below daily was noise - do you have a link? Automated trading versus discretionary trading. May 13, System trading versus fundamental investing Oct 13, 2: Simulator versus Live Trading.

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