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If you are looking for an easy way to make gold, then engineering isn't for you. Levelling engineering from can cost thousands of gold, and it will take a very long time to earn that gold back when you do get to max level.

It has very fun items like Rocket boots, Parachute cloak, and, to top it off, a bank and reagent vendor every hour! Comment by Hyperlynx Wrist Mounted Pyro Rocket. Comment by guntitan Engineers can make money. We have a mount we can sell, a few companion pets, some mats that other classes need, we can farm our own motes, make and sell end game arrows and bullets, and the list can go on.

Just need to find your niche in the market. Comment by Mastrcapn Engineering is the 'fun' profession in the game. It offers several marked benefits Significant haste, free slow fall, FREAKING WRIST-ROCKETS, etctwo Engineer-only mounts, a craftable motorcycle, a portable mailbox, portals across Northrend and the old world, snowball machines, rocket guns, and a myriad of other fun-stuffs grenades, anyone? The problem with this is money: A lot of it. Leveling Engineering could be compared to being stabbed in the neck with a solid gold knife: It sucks, but everyone will know "Hey, this guy is worth something!

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Engineering has a relatively small niche in the market. Most Engineer items are Bind on Pickup or require engineering to do, save for some vanity pets and ammunition. Engineering is not a profession that you will want to start out with on your character. Better to level an 80 with a money-making skill before sojourning into the world of Engineering.

Have fun with it when you do, because it is the bomb. See what I did there? Comment by LegalDanish Arguably the best profession to combine with Engineering is Mining. Engineering requires a LOT of ore, many gems, rocks, etc. Occasionally you may end up needing ingredients from other sources, but for the most part, mining is most complementary. Comment by besaba I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this: Winner of the PVP Player's Choice Award.

Comment by ffcloud Quest's to start specializations Gnome Engineering Horde Goblin Engineering Horde Gnome Engineering Alliance Goblin Engineering Alliance. Comment by Jdub im noticing that some of the BC trainers won't allow me to train things from them, such as the deathblow x11 goggles from k. Comment by bruskey I have a question.

I was wondering how I de-engineer something. I am a eng.

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But am only lvl I know it doesn't matter until I get to level 80 but I would like to know if I have missed something. I have got no spells for eng in my book except for eng, and gnomish eng. Any help would be grateful. Comment by Tankalishus Engineering is something that you should choose to have some fun.

There is bombs, polymorphs, mind control AND A FREAKEN ROCKET ENCHANT! Comment by itgrowls Despite all the hubub about how costly this is, It never cost me thousands of gold as my engineer was also a miner.

It's very easy to get a ton of ore around azeroth, outland, northrend make parts until you are max. I've been playing since launch but only started engineering two years into the game.

Leveled engineering two other times on two other types of characters the same way once on a caster and once on a pally tank. Both times it was just as easy. Be sure and gather as much ore as possible. Iron, mithril, and thorium are needed the most in order to get to the mark. Even though it didn't cost me a dime Comment by RedDrag0n Hypothetically. If im a goblin engineer and i have all the schematics i can for goblin. Comment by Kuzo Only one schematic for lvl Engineers, hopping for another mount and some more BoE guns to put on the AH at Comment by puppysnuff Hypothetically.

Comment by WoWPerson1 Engineers get a variety of new toys in Cataclysm including: Various new tinkers including a priest-type bubble, Increased effects of potions like the alchemist trinketsand a cloning devise! Mirror Image New non-combat pets Small combat pets A feast cooking-type barbecue that feeds your raid source: Comment by la47 damn Blizzard, can U just stop creating all those engineering helms, or make better skills for them Justicebringer SpecsPowerheal LensTruesight Ice BlindersWonderheal XT40 Shades and etc.

Comment by Zereketh Hey look buddy, I'm an Engineer, that means I solve problems. Comment by LeminaAusa Engineering tinkers, as of patch 4. Comment by Vanisfunny sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Comment by Ignazio recomended profesion for pvp: Comment by QuickBASIC37 Does anyone know if the cloth items that an engineer crafts count against the Armor Specialization bonuses?

Comment by Dahork new engineering mount for cataclysm please! Comment by dingbot1 There aren't cloth specialization bonuses, because they can only wear cloth. Comment by Cryptorchild Here's what's bugging me, maybe someone from the Cata beta can explain. How in the name of hell are we expected to skill this now? Looking at the skill gain levels, there is a gap from towith no item I can tell being able to fill the gap.

Sorta pointless to have some awesome goggles to aim for, when it looks currently impossible to even reach that point. Comment by Blagga It looks like now certain Engineering recipes can give you multiple skill-up points at a time. Comment by BigNorm is engineering mainly used for casting classes? Comment by Blagga Good news, everyone. As of the last hotfix, you can now keep learning new tinkers at max Engineering: All eight of the Engineering discoveries are now able to be learned through crafting the Overpowered Chicken Splitter at max-level Engineering.

Comment by Habanoob69 http: Comment by Duilius I am curious about levelling engineering. Character is a paladin that is primarily retribution spec now, but I began as a tank and still tank often doing random heroics for a faster que time.

Does anyone else have exp with that combination on a pally? If so, how was your experience? Has anyone seen a list compiled of the total items needed to level up?

I haven't seen the changes coming up in the next patch, is it being nerfed? Is it still a terrible money maker, as previous posters have stated. Answers to these questions and any other comments would be greatly appreciated!

Comment by rosco As many beore me have said, this is a money wasting prof. Although, it has alot of down sides, it's a very rewarding prof. I dropped this after I got all the mounts and made all my money back. The Chopper's still sell for alot even though cata is out now. Time, money, and alot of hardwork, you could easily master the art of it. I recommend being a Gnome for this. Boost in the prof. Particularry a caster for the increased mana pool Gnome's have.

Check other proffessions for my suggestions on who should have which. Comment by Izzyasha As much as everyone seemed geared for engineering to be amazing alot of stuff got cut before being released Like the amazing epic bows and guns we could make And the ability to itemized our trinkets Wether these will be implemented is to be seen.

Not to mention ive yet to see a single engineering mob in the game Remember in wrath when they implemented the skinning into us looking for scrap parts to use, Not a single Mob in This expansion has been "skinnable" this expansion except for oldworld mobs.

While i know this is a gimmick profession. Thats suppose to be fun? It wasnt fun at all No fun gimmick items other then a new pet? Im sorry no amount of shiny goggles will make my undead attractive. P other then that a barbeque that has a use and a cardboard assassin that seems to fail at its job. Need a name change to Cardboard meatshield.

Anyways i cant speak how viable this post will be in future patches but so far engineering got the shaft. The goggles are nice, But unless the cogs or goggles scale Comment by bartmoss Engineering is really not much fore plate wearers, is it? I know there are holy paladin items in there, but for everybody else, at least 85, it's pretty useless, isn't it? That's to say Retarding, Protection Paladin, Warriors, DKs. Comment by codyx even though we eng didnt get a ton of new toys in cata the bio-optic killshades are pretty high end for this tier of content 4.

Comment by Neazy Engineering is, by far, the best profession for any kind of competitive play PvP, PvE and has the most tools for your average player. The Gnomish X-Ray Scopefor example, sold for 10 gold on Kil'Jaeden last time I checked. That said, there's nothing wrong with taking engineering on every one of your characters.

The Synapse Springs are an amazing DPS perk, and the tank version is equally good. The goggles are pre-heroic BiS for every class, as you can choose which 2 stats you would like to put in there thanks to cogwheels. As far as utility goes, you can get one of the manymany belt enchants and a parachute on your cloak.

There's endless little trinkets and random gadgets that can do basically anything, too. Then there's the grenades, which can boost your DPS and incapacitate targets for 5 seconds or even freeze them in place which counts for shatter for all you mages.

And there's a hell of a lot more useful things than the ones I linked. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong if you take engineering on every single character you have. Get a different profession to make money. Comment by Neazy It definitely is the best because the synapse springs are the biggest DPS increase of any profession.

Comment by runNEOrun I have various toons with level tailor, leatherworker as well as blacksmithing. So I was wondering why those professions are able to craft ilvl gear where as the engineering profession is only able to make ilvl ? We all use chaos orbs, so what gives? Comment by Thaag Who else is scratching their heads when they realize the two top weapons we can craft require an orb but are only i? Are our skills going to be as obsolete as they were when raiding started in LK?

Maybe moreso, now that ammo is no longer needed? I feel like a mage. Comment by temujian Engineers don't solve problems because they don't know how to reason quantitatively.

They are good at punching in numbers into calculators Comment by Trazgul This isn't a forum. Comment by pkarsai The membership renewal system is no longer in the game. Please remove the obsolete information from the introduction. Comment by Tribert I chose gnome engineering, but quickly wanted to switch over to goblin.

I unlearned my gnome with the book, but now i cannot for the life of me find a quest to start up goblin. I have been to every trainer that wowhead says can start the quest, but none of them have it. Comment by southpawami I'm surprised more people aren't mentioning the portals.

If you're not a mage, engineering's 3 portals are how you don't wait to farm barring getting turned into a chicken. When you meet a mage somewhere, and it takes you 20min in flying and it took them 3sec You will not find much profit from this profession, but the multitude of very amazing toys makes up for it. Outlands is by far the worst in my opinion for leveling the profession. Classic and Northrend are amazingly easy now.

Comment by Syconder Why has it not been said that this is nearly perfect for hunters. Being able to make some of the best guns for leveling, and being able to make the only enchants for ranged weapons, as well as ammo back in the good ol' days. Comment by ziggy29 "Explosive Decoy" doesn't turn green untilnot as listed in the chart as of now -- making that the least painful way to level from to by a longshot. Comment by Krauwie I am surprised it doesn't say that you can 'deconstruct' mechanical enemies and get extra loot.

Comment by xspillcanvas For those of you who want to level engineering fast, and have the money to do so, look up the cataclysm engineering guide on a nifty site called WoW-professions no, this is not advertisement. It provides a detailed step-by-step guide into leveling your engineering the whole way! It should really take a few hours of dedication to stroll from I invested close to g in total speed leveling this, and I must say it's worth it.

Be sure to stop by Tanaris and pick up Goblin Engineering, or Gnome Engineering not sure where to get it, didn't care for it and the Personal World Destroyer s get you quiet a few gold on the AH! Good luck from Nazjatar. Comment by Felzbek You can only learn the goggles that goes with your class.

Check the quick facts box at the top of the page to each goggles to know which class can make them. Even tho they share the same stats its just different names for different classes. Comment by WoWHackingTools Valor Cap Increaser The Valor Cap Increaser edits the amount of valor points you can acquire by exploiting a simple Blizzard bug. In exchange for that you will receive a gift that has a chance to contain the schematics for a rare pet specific to your specialization.

Comment by BigBear How do you change from goblin engineering to gnomish engineering? Comment by tuornak Ah, engineering! The profession for making some of the most useless items in the game. I say useless because the materials needed to make a lot of items in order to level up engineering make it almost impossible to keep engineering on par with your character's level ie craft items useable against MOBs and enemy players around your level.

So you craft it then don't need it, can't sell it on AH because nobody can use it and other engineers rarely need most of what other engineers create unless it's a part for making something else. You can only sell it to a vendor for far less than the time and money you spent in making it. You definitely need a guild or a higher level character with access to gold and mats to do so.

Otherwise you're just making a lot stuff you don't need and nobody else can use just to level up your engineering and some of the schematics require ridiculous amounts of different mats requiring several professions and drops.

This means a lot of money spent at the AH and a lot of time spent farming for mats and gold which to do either will push your character's exp past the point of needing the item. There are also sizable gaps between schematics you can learn from a trainer sometimes points from one skill to the next; plus there is the beauty of finally learning something and it's forex auto trading software review yellow or green level from the getgo so you can't level pretty far with it.

Then there are those schematics that being able to learn them or make them are completely out of your level ability. My favorite is the Schematic: Arcanite Dragonling which requires level 50 and Engineering but to get the schematics you need Wormhole Generator: Northrend which requires Engineering and thus level 65 to do when the item is of little use to you for PVE, PVP, or leveling up your engineering!

Of course you could buy it on the AH for several hundred gold if you can spare it which seems how to make gold with skinning mop only reason to get it - to make some money from this practically profitless profession. And from what I understand this item got nerfed so it doesn't level with you and so its only useful to you for a short span of time. Not really worth all the effort to make unless you are someone with access to gobs of cash and mats.

Don't get me wrong there are some cool stuff only engineers can make but can't make a profit off but too often it's of little use even for yourself and it costs a lot of time and money. It's like a number of things on WOW that sound cool in concept but really are often disappointingly underwhelming in reality. If you try engineering on your lonesome, it's going to be tough and if you want to keep it level with your character's level it will take a long time.

Comment by akilleuss Does anyone know a way to learn both Goblin and Gnomish Engineering or do we only get 1 option? Comment by dEathMOngerZ i like engineering but its a pain to find all the items you need for all of the cool items. Form value change jquery by baradiel Hello Everyone! Comment by staron My blacksmith can craft items with recipes bought right off the vendors.

My tailor the same. My engineer sits with 15 chaos orbs and not to do with them. You do get a head piece that noone else gets, similar to alchemy making a trinket, but you cannot sell anything.

There is a gun recipe which requires grinding Hyjal for weeks to get. My hunter has landed the crossbow doing much fewer runs in FL than it would take my engineer to get the marks of the world tree to make an inferior weapon. Engineers should be able to make BOE trinkets or helmets with recipes right off the vendors how to make camera dollar bill origami balance them with tailoring, blacksmithing, leatherworking.

Comment by Frahaleah Does the engineering enchants override the Enchanter's enchants? Comment by Rhinemonster Love the helicopter and it's been awesome to fly around in I really like it.

Can't wait to get my engineering to so I can fly around in the souped-up helicopter Engineers lead the way! So you craft it then don't need it and you can't sell it on AH because nobody can use it and other engineers rarely need most of what other engineers create unless it's a part for making something else. You definitely need a guild or a higher level character with access to gold and mats to do Engineering properly. Otherwise you're just making a lot stuff you don't need and nobody else can use just to level up your engineering and some of the schematics require ridiculous amounts of different mats requiring several professions and drops some of them rare.

There are also sizable gaps between schematics you can learn from a trainer sometimes points from one skill to the next; plus there is the beauty of finally learning something and it's a yellow or green from the getgo so you can't level pretty far with it. Blizz seems afraid of this profession so they water it down with lackluster performance or worse with a high probability of failure which damages the user. Then they nerf items of the functions they were designed for: Saronite Bomb and Global Thermal Sapper Charge are both designed to create siege damage but in WinterGrasp a completely siege environment, neither of these bombs will work!

It's like a number of things on WOW that sound cool in concept but really are often disappointingly underwhelming in reality like the Explosive Sheep which waddles about and maybe explodes but presently is bugged and won't explode unless attacked. My suggestion to Blizzard? Make engineering more practical and put more fun into it - actual fun. Comment by Orthis Engineering is arguably one of the funnest professions in World of Warcraft.

Easily craftable Nitro Boost, Parachutes, and cool transmogrifiable goggles Red, Green, Yellow, and Blueto compliment your Turbo-powered Flying Machine: All only available to Engineers! You can also engineer a motorcyclea portable mailbox, as well as a portable repair man. Comment by Rhinemonster Engineering is for the true American, look at our past and you'll see that we share a time honored tradition with the Goblins and Gnomes of Azeroth I'll take engineering over chemistry, alchemy, botany or any other trade skill any tim sykes forex Go Engineer something my goblin allies!

Comment by wigglemonster I'm kind of disappointed that nothing new came out for engineering in the 4. Other professions have new things to learn. Jewlcrafting, leather working, etc. I hope to see new craftables from engineering. Comment by newhon63 I need to know if there a place to get what each disipline of Engineering is able to make. Sort of like how they have to compare what an Aldor gets compared to being Scryer. My toon has engineering and I am at that crossroads, I like explosives but there are things on the Gnome side that I like too.

Comment by Foxzy Hey i've got a goblin hunter who is a goblin eng. Comment by akilleuss shame really i thought this was the case its just annoying blizz should really make this option available we have Goblin and Gnome on both sides even if its in a quest chain at the steamweedle cartel maybe from starting at Ratchett going to Bootybay to learn the 1 type after an engineering skill lvl Booty forex limited new zealand to Gadgetzan then to Everlook finally we should learn how to do both at somewhere like Area 52 also require a engineering skill this would be a good and it would also this would would also put the lvl cap to 60 for both types of engineering which was the orignal lvl cap ingame.

Comment by akilleuss shame really that we cant learn Goblin and Gnomish its annoying blizz should really make this option available we have Goblin and Gnome on both sides even if its in a quest chain at the steamweedle cartel maybe from starting at Ratchett going to Bootybay to learn the 1 type after an engineering skill lvl it should be Booty bay to Gadgetzan then to Everlook finally we should be sent to learn how to do both at somewhere like Area 52 which would need lvl 60 to get over there this would be good and put the lvl cap to 60 for how to make gold with skinning mop both types of engineering which was the orignal lvl cap ingame.

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Comment by sixxis Can anyone let me know if there is still a way for Horde to renew a gnomish membership at all please? I can't seem to find the trainer. Comment by Bronius So you thought being an engineer was easy? Comment by Joefesok2 By far the most useful function of engineering is the ability to summons repair-bots. This can evade a "technical" wipe very easily. Comment by Drakhma this proffesion requirs alot of workand if you dont have a miner then itll cost you alot of gold too.

Good proof tho Bombs, fireworks, mounts, trinkets, goggles, guns, bow, crossbow, prets, theres ALOT to ENG. Comment by Jollygood People have commented on the expenses of engineering. If you don't mine, you spend a lot of gold buying things from miners. If you do mine, you use up all your stock, so you are not making gold from selling the stuff.

Either way, Engineering is more a labor of love and a great source of entertainment. If you are a PvP player, this profession offers you some surprises for the other players. Low level players out questing will love target dummies. Bombs are just fun. I had a low level 'toon now gone who made a bunch of bombs and I spent a half hour laughing and throwing bombs at level 1 mobs in Durotar.

If you are a new player and only have one or two characters, I would not recommend it. New players would be better served as gatherers, so they can make gold and level faster via the exp points from herbalism. Plus, gatherers can find crafters, getting the items they want by providing the materials and tipping the crafter well.

At max level, it's binary options which stories go on a daily basis good idea to have an alchemist to do transmutes.

My main's the third character I created. She's a warlock engineer. These are the things that have been very useful: I can get to Winterspring and Area Kinda like being a poor man's mage. Get knocked in the air? Get a soft landing. Depending on how the current release has nerfed 'locks and my level of inattention at 2AM, bombs are great for when I run out of mana and am low on health.

I don't raid a lot, but people love me when we've wiped a few times and need repairs. Ship it to an alt in the middle of the Uldum desert.

As a low level gnome, she was a little killer with her OP headgear. They only are good for a couple of levels, but they're fun. The animations on some of these things is vastly entertaining. I love the goblin barbeque and squander them all the time in guild runs just because they're fun. Other animations while making stuff are cool Electirifed ether sometimes knocks my 'lock on her butt.

Engineering puts the "fun" part in the concept of "game" Transporter accidents. Now, on to making money. You can make money. If you have a low level JC alt, you can make delicate copper finance invest stock market beginners philippines. An engineer can make fused wiring.

This actually sells well on the AH. Pets make money, too. If you are totally OCD, you can collect materials to make the motorcycles. I rarely see them on the AH and they tend to go for the low five figures. There are also items that are enhancements. I don't really pay attention to all my schematics, but last night, someone asked for an engineer in trade chat. I suspect high level engineers are a little rare, so if you are inclined to spam trade chat with your wares, you may get tips.

I tend not to do that, because I'm constantly rep grinding.

Hope this helps if you are mulling over Engineering as a choice. Of course, your mileage may vary. You cannot fly, but you can glide for a long distance.

Also, there are goggles that are supposed to increase the drop rate on gatherables while mining and herbing. It may have been nerfed, but initially, it was a substantial increase in nodes. For a while the trinkets were a good source of income. Now, with the Timeless Isle gear, not so much. However, The mount and pets are selling on the auction house. All the popular kids ride around on golems now. Comment by Joefesok2 You have to wonder; What's it going to be like in MoP?

Are we going to get sub-ancient weapons, or firebombs to light entire forests on fire? Comment by Isopod Hey look, buddy. I'm an engineer, that means I solve problems. Not problems like 'What is beauty? I solve practical problems. Comment by Hasheeshish I hope we get some cool new stuff in MoP! Comment by arcotecto Hello Engineers: Thanks for your time. Comment by Myebika Engineers once again get the auctioneer advantage, and won't have to go back to their main "old" cities to access the auction house.

Fish forex robot 4g download they are the heroes Azeroth deserve, but not the one engineers need right now. Nonsense; it'll be a lot more convenient!

Comment by Joefesok2 Why don't engineers get a fun faction to play with. Comment by Cleptor I like to go fishing once in a while and I used to enjoy being able to make my own fishing bait.

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It makes me sad. Comment by Brynnjulf One of the only reasons i started engineering: One of the reasons i continued: Comment by tonydizzle " Comment by greg Thanks again Blizz Give us a few more epics at max level Comment by sylancer compare to other Profession Perks: Comment by sylancer compare fun Profession Perks: Frostweave Net Frostweave Net every 1 min Leatherworking: Drums of Panic Drums of Panic every 2 min Drums of Speed Drums of Speed every 2 min Engineering: Frag Belt Cobalt Frag Bomb toms market stockton ca 1 min EMP Generator Electromagnetic Pulse every 1 min Watergliding Jets Watergliding Jets every 30 sec Invisibility Field Invisibility Field every 3 min Mind Amplification Dish Mind Amplification Dish every 10 min Nitro Boosts Nitro Boosts every 3 min Grounded Plasma Shield Grounded Plasma Shield every 5 min Spinal Healing Injector Spinal Healing Injectorshare CD with Portions Cardboard Assassin Cardboard Assassin every 5 min Cloak: Alchemist's India forum forex restore health and mana at same time Trinket: Frostweave NetDrums of PanicDrums of SpeedFrag Belt share CD.

Comment by gnorkthedark Engineering - the best proffesion for everything except doing what a proffesion should be used for, making gold. Comment by altayrr Approximate Materials Required for Cataclysm 85 x 4 x 52 x 30 x 76 x 20 x Pandaria 85 x 90 x 1 x You will also need around 4 more or It really depends on which items you make.

I can't list the exact materials needed because it's up to you which recipes do you choose. Comment by Regvenerat Engineering. Comment by firebird8 Currently, to specialize you have to get a quest, but it is NO LONGER in Ratchet. Gnomish Engineering starts at your engineering trainer in IF, SW, Thunder Bluff, and Org. Goblin Engineering starts at your engineering trainer ONLY in SW and Org. Comment by Salogel Please remove the link to "Crafter's Tome Leveling Guide" since is out of date level You can have this link instead or similar: I'm pretty sure it's because Timeless isle is such a huge time sink and people are grinding out tokens rather than leveling alts now, hopefully this will increase as people go back to working on alts, but timeless trinket tokens, while not useful for leveling, may be having people skip out on spending money on dragonlings while they push for Read below and I'll explain how and why I'm probably going to regret posting this as people are sure to move in on my market now.

In MoP, for engineers, the Ghost Iron Dragonling and it's Gears have finally made us a viable money making profession. The problem is it only makes it viable for engineers per faction per server At least via the AH. Why people need them: It's useful to every player in the game and binds on equip, meaning every alt needs one of their own, and the gears to go with it. Stealthers however need not apply due to the dragonling proc. The problem with selling them: As was leveling I knew about these but couldn't make them yet so I was constantly looking on the AH to get one and gears for it.

What I found was that most of the time these were NEVER on the AH in my server. When they were on the AH there were either no gears, or gears that were useless to me. If the gears people need aren't available they will NOT drop the gold these things sell for. Who wants a trinket that just procs a dragonling?

Solution and path to massive money: If you want to sell Ghost Iron Dragonling s then you need to put up the gears as well, ALL the gears. If you put up 1 dragonling you need 1 of each of the 8 gears that can be slotted into it. This way people always see the gears they need. Best results come from having a large, constant supply. Anytime something sells, after you get your money from the mailbox the first thing you should do is replace it on the AH. It takes 30 Ghost Iron Bar and 12 Windwool Cloth to make a full "set" of dragonling and gears.

As a miner the hardest part for me is maintaining enough windwool to keep up with the demand. I've even had to resort to buying stacks of windwool with Spirit of Harmony from Danky Krystel for Alliance.

As of right now, anytime you go on the AH for my server, you'll find my auctions. This worked well, but Tuesdays would often clean me out again raid resetsso I upped it to 6, from here I've always had at least one still on the AH after I logged in.

Some days you won't sell anything at all. I set a "decent" price and leave it. I don't worry about being undercut because as of yet I have no real competition. Most of the time my auctions are the only ones on the AH, at times someone under cuts me, but it's usually only dragonlings and no gears, or a couple random gears.

In either case, I still make money selling gears to a person that bought the other guy's dragonling, or sell a dragonling and only 1 or 2 gears with it.

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The most important part to this is to keep up with demand. You need to maintain enough gears for your dragonlings. And enough dragonlings that people won't not find them when they look. Alternately you can 'partner' with someone else. One of you making gears and the other makes the dragonlings. Advanced Tradeskill Window - This lets you queue up multiple items for creation, then you can click the "reagents" button to see exactly how many resources you need compared to what you have on you, in your bank, and on alts.

Carbonite - It's an all in one package map and tons of other things. The reason I recommend it is for it's "warehouse" function.

It can add into the tooltip of an item exactly how many you have on you, alts, in your bank, in the guild bank, and on the auction house. Any addon that does the same will work fine if you don't want to get Carbonite. Auctioneer - Can set-up batch posting of your gears and dragonlings making it easy to dump all you stuff back onto the auction house.

It also tracks pricing, What sells and what doesn't, making it easier to adjust pricing to your server. Any Auction plugin that can do this will also be fine. Comment by Marbash I like the perks of having engeneering as a proffesion on some of my characters, but I find it the hardest of the ones I've tried haven't tried inscription yet to level up, since you need to have mining to be able to craft most items without ruining your wallet on the auction house, plus you also need some cloth, plus leather.

Comment by Saurisa Engineering is the most fun of all the primary professions to me. I love the perks of being able to build your own mounts. While other professions can make their own mounts they do not get to make a motorcycle. First you need to Unlearn the existing specialisation in your Professions window click the red Unlearn icon next to it which is in the upper right in the Engineering panel 2.

Visit one of the Engineering Trainers in the main cities who will now offer a quest to learn whichever one you prefer not offered in Dalaran even with the two specialist Trainers. Comment by Kataclysia Engineering is a lot of fun and it is my favorite crafting profession. Comment by Krika Also with engineering giving you a tool for every occasion. Comment by thedownsided excellent guide def upvote if i could. Comment by pudz I've just reached Engineering, and I've spent thousands getting to this point in a few days.

I levelled Engineering back in Classic on my Rogue and found many toys so much fun. So you can imagine my surprise when I finished levelling it, after a long WOW break, to find there's. The mounts cost an absolute fortune to build, but fair enough people somehow manage it; I, working full time, will never.

I've just been left feeling like this profession could be really fun, even if they made it powerful in pve, outside of raids and instances; maybe a turret you can put down for farming, a helicopter that you can load up and send off and it posts your mail, a decent pet to fight for you? Maybe last one would be a bit OP. What would you all like to see and do any of you agree with my perception of this seemingly mediocre profession?

Comment by Jairom Engineering: Ninjanite New Transforms elementium ore into several bars of Ninjanite. This item has 0 charges. It really does have N charges. Assuming this is correct, it is best if one were to start farming elementium ore now, before the inevitable farming post expansion happens to keep leveling engineers happy. Been waiting a long time for a change like this to engineering. This change should occur between pre-Warlords of Draenor patch 6.

Since the expansion itself requires unlocking from Blizzard's personal servers, then this will be something that one can get after the expansion has launched. Comment by Jorvalt I was honestly pretty disappointed with what Engineering became in MoP.

Now it's like "Oh, you can craft a bunch of useless items aside from maybe ONE useful item! The ones you can craft in MoP are level And tbh, the few new items that are actually useful have a limited amount of charges.

What ever happened to Engineering being both fun and useful? Comment by NicolaiKH Goblin Glider Best thing ever. Comment by Smokeynugss so are profs pretty much over? Comment by Smokeynugss wtf is happening to my engineering. Comment by Belzeth The starting quest item for each crafting profession, skillis dropped by Dorogg the Ruthless when doing the quest "The Butcher of Bladespire" at Bladespire Fortress.

Comment by Draewind In WoW professions we now buid items that can rival the raid drop items and are far better than the dungeon drop items. They start small and can be made bigger and bigger. The random enchant includes 2 of the secondary stats giving us a measurable chance or RNG.

Items for the Back cloakneck, neck, finger ringweapon, and shield, have a greater number of possibilities than other armor items, because they can contain the secondary statistics of Bonus Armor and Spirit fortunately they do not include the combination of both those statistics. I wish I could add a picture here. Cloaks, Necks, Rings, Shields, Weapons: These items have an additional 2 statisctics added to the normal 4. The added statistics, as mentioned earlier, are Bonus Armor and Spirit Tank and Healer statistics, respectively.

Fortunately there is no combination of both Bonus Armor and Spirit ever here of teats on a boar hog? Only weapon types intended for a healing class will have the possibility of Spirit, and only weapon types intended for a tanking class will have Bonus Armor. Weapons intended for both, will have the same chances as all the jewelry, cloaks, and shields. So if it can be enchanted by enchanting or is a shield, it fits in this class of item. I am not certain whether Bonus Armor and Spirit have the same chance of being included.

They also vary with the level of the individual wearing or looking at them. There you have it. All the possible names and combinations. All items of the same level contain the same amount of statistic, such as "54 Critical Strike" and I have not seen a crafted item with a double a statistic only one statistic but twice the value.

None of content, just spelling and highlighting. Comment by matheus My biggest grudge with the new items is that before, I could simply tinker my gear and attach the speed boost on my beld and the goblin glider on my cloak. NOW, I have to keep all the tinkers on my bags, I got used to use both the glider and the boost all the time, NOW I have to lose 5 slots of bag space if I wanna keep gliders - YES, because they only stack to Not to mention that the speed boost is completely GONE. Comment by Twehz As of patch 6.

You can learn these recipes from Recipe: Secrets of Draenor Engineering. Though you'll need an Arclight Spanner which requires skill level 50 engineering to make.

It will take either x Blackrock Ore or True Iron Ore to reach skill level From you'll have to create more than 30 Shieldtronic Shield. They turn Yellow at and green at Comment by zombieco One word to describe Engineering in it's current form: I seem to find myself be surprised at the limitations or limits on using my inventions than I am at the results.

We cant use most of them in combat, can't use them in a lot of specific areas. Too much restriction has this skill feeling extremely lacking and I REALLY hope Blizzard is aware of it and taking steps to fix it. I have been an engineer on my main since vanilla. At this point the only real reason to take engineering is to get a glider. However if you get Avianas feather or a backpack you can get the same effect. I do still use rocket boots a lot and the shield barrier is nice for raiding.

Those 2 things are the only bit that comes to mind as far as usefulness goes however. Comment by wiki I leveled my engineer from level 30 to 90 with the one time buff blizz offered. Becaue of that i miss a lot of recipes that do not come from vendors and the like.

I am looking for those recipes that still have a function in WoD. I found the mounts oc but i mean more the utilities that are still usefull. I would be grateful for helping me out here by linking the recipes that are still worth going for. Comment by ragstal so guys i have a very simple question am orc warior and engineering with blacksmith or blacksmith with miningam asking cause i read a guide and recomended mining so what is wise to select?

Comment by irishlord Dont do what I did. I spent 5 hours and a lot of mats getting to in SW. I followed a guide I found somewhere. Then reading another guide it said i could go to Stormshield and train from 1 OMG i went from to goal was in 5 min making gliders. Trying to do it the old way is close to impossible since no one sells the materials you need to lvl up. Example NO FEL IRON in the AH. I kind of want to delete what i did and start at SS to clean up my tab.

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